May 7, 2010
16:23
@hughbris It can be a lot of work to move from an established CVS repo over to a VCS using a completely different model.
May 10, 2010
08:14
The Haiku Project is proud to announce the availability of Haiku R1A2, its second official alpha release. Haiku is an open source operating system that specifically targets personal computing intended for desktop use. Alpha 2 is a stable development release and a milestone on the way to the upcoming Release 1.
22:26
After an unintended wait, Lesson 17 is finally out. We are back to learning about hacking on the Haiku GUI after taking a short C++ language break. Today's topic? Menus. Also in this lesson is some expansion of what we know about messaging and BViews.
Learning to Program With Haiku, Lesson 17
Project: 17MenuColors.zip
May 11, 2010
01:01
A little over half a year after their initial Alpha release, Haiku Inc. has released their second Alpha.
Congratulations to all the developers and volunteers that have worked so hard to bring us these results!
What are you waiting for?? Download Haiku Alpha 2.
16:34
!haikuos Alpha 2 - first impressions very solid, WebPositive is awesome! Old laptop playing #HTML5 Asteroids perform than my !linux desktop.
17:53
@jargon Apples vs Oranges! My favourite! I love them both but it really depends what you want to use each one for.
17:59
@bruce89 Overall the !fedora community is bloody awesome, but the IRC channel is deplorable. They need to read the fucking Community Manual!
May 12, 2010
01:20
@gege2061 If this is true then that would be awesome, even though the code wouldn't be hugely useful. #WoG level builder ahoy!? #indie
02:41
The NPD Group says U.S. sales of Android smartphones have surpassed Apple's iPhone to take the second spot behind Research in Motion (RIM), with 28 percent of the market. Meanwhile, Sprint has joined Verizon in turning its back on Google's Nexus One, says eWEEK....
08:59
Cherrypal announced its first two netbooks to run Android. The Cherrypal Asia is available in seven-inch ($99) and 10.1-inch ($148) models, both of which run Android 1.6 on an ARM9-based Via VT 8505 processor clocked at 533MHz, and offer 256MB of RAM, 2GB of flash storage, Ethernet, WiFi, and USB connectivity, says the company....
14:05
@nybill Big game houses have the misconception that Linux users prefer to buy games that are released 24 - 36 months after Windows...
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14:32
Its a massive pain in the ass when people take you far too literally. #lightenthefuckup
14:47
I'm not at all interested in legal crap but this was a good read - http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/lol-marxism/ !freesoftware
15:34
Cleaning up my rarely used #Windows VM. Fragile piece of crap. #Firefox won't start and then after that #IE won't either.
15:36
Might have to take a holiday sometime soon.
16:37
Installing ConsoleOne. See you in 3 hours.
16:42
I'm going to buy a case of beer today...
18:07
@roidelapluie Yeah I know... They replaced the servers in Castle with just faceplates with lights behind. #Linux was mention Season 1.
May 13, 2010
16:58
Setting up #Zookeepr dev environment in !haiku-os. Go-pylons: no problem - #bzr fought a little but I got that working fairly easy :D
16:59
Crap, when pulling a branch I got "bzr: out of memory" #bzr !haiku-os
May 14, 2010
02:41
There's a good interview by Maxim Sokhatsky in which Artur Wyszynski tells us about the state of Haiku's current OpenGL implementation, and his future plans here:
Maxim: Tell us about yourself ?
Artur: I'm a 27 years old, working as a game developer in GameLion Studios, long time BeOS user and almost 2-3 years Haiku developer :)
Maxim: What is current OpenGL state in Haiku ?
Artur: OpenGL state in Haiku OpenGL Kit is so simple that even Windows GL API beat us in that manner it was designed 10-12 years ago, without current GPU's multi-threading rendering etc. My plan if nobody beats me is to implement TTM memory menager in kernel, then port DRM on kernel side, provide a simple test cases which shows that it works and then rewrite from scratch Haiku OpenGL kit but as a base use Apple's OpenGL framework. It's mature, well designed and great :)
For example, current implementation of OpenGL Kit doesn't allow you to have more contexts, and for example, current engines uses multiple threads in their engines and in current design you can't divide application to use multiple context, for example one to render, one to process, one to physics etc.
Maxim: Tell us about Gallium3D in Haiku ?
Artur: softpipe in Ggallium3D takes a role of a reference driver. If you want to write driver for gallium you can take a look at softpipe. It's a pure software implementation, designed without performance in mind but as a reference. It doesn't touch GPU, and works only on cpu. There is a fork of softpipe, called llvmpipe, which uses LLVM to produce highly optimized multithreaded code, which on linux (pure software without GPU) can play Open Arena game at 32 fps on 800x600. It's pretty amazing, pure mesa have performance at 3-5 fps.
First I need to implement TTM and DRM, then I could focus on bringing OpenGL kit up to date. TTM is an API for managing memory on GPU's, DRM is a direct rendering manager, kernel side implementation of how to talk to graphics card, popular on Linux. I'm using code from FreeBSD and some parts from Linux. But lately I'm trying to get more from Linux as FreeBSD port of Mesa and GL stack at all isn't complete as much as Linux ones. But there are limits, for example linux GL stack on kernel side (DRM) is GPL'ed and on Haiku we are focusing on having much not GPL code as we can.
Maxim: You mentioned LLVM. Will you use it ?
Artur: LLVM is a Low Level Virtual Machine, it's another topic, but it allows to generate higly optimized code for cpu. Nope, i'm not planning to use it.
Maxim: What GPU will be accelerated first in plans ?
Artur: What GPU ? Which I have, nVidia :D If we're going to provide an OpenGL Kit, it should be a fully accelerated by GPU, not a software implementation. But really, my plans are first to use VMware vGPU driver and if it works, then try with real hardware. VMware vGPU is a virtual GPU architecture, which translates guests OpenGL calls into native calls from hosts, so you can get native performance from your nvidia card running on linux on your Haiku runned from VMware.
Maxim: Will Haiku support Linux DRM drivers ?
Artur: If we don't want to reinvent the wheel on haiku, we should implement DRM on our side and use stable, bug-free linux drivers. TTM and DRM are to be implemented as kernel mode code. And Haiku DRM will provide DRM API that is compatible on source level with Linux DRM drivers, similar as it was done by our colleages with FreeBSD network compatibility layer which we have for network drivers.
Maxim: Tell us about yourself ?
Artur: I'm a 27 years old, working as a game developer in GameLion Studios, long time BeOS user and almost 2-3 years Haiku developer :)
Maxim: What is current OpenGL state in Haiku ?
Artur: OpenGL state in Haiku OpenGL Kit is so simple that even Windows GL API beat us in that manner it was designed 10-12 years ago, without current GPU's multi-threading rendering etc. My plan if nobody beats me is to implement TTM memory menager in kernel, then port DRM on kernel side, provide a simple test cases which shows that it works and then rewrite from scratch Haiku OpenGL kit but as a base use Apple's OpenGL framework. It's mature, well designed and great :)
For example, current implementation of OpenGL Kit doesn't allow you to have more contexts, and for example, current engines uses multiple threads in their engines and in current design you can't divide application to use multiple context, for example one to render, one to process, one to physics etc.
Maxim: Tell us about Gallium3D in Haiku ?
Artur: softpipe in Ggallium3D takes a role of a reference driver. If you want to write driver for gallium you can take a look at softpipe. It's a pure software implementation, designed without performance in mind but as a reference. It doesn't touch GPU, and works only on cpu. There is a fork of softpipe, called llvmpipe, which uses LLVM to produce highly optimized multithreaded code, which on linux (pure software without GPU) can play Open Arena game at 32 fps on 800x600. It's pretty amazing, pure mesa have performance at 3-5 fps.
First I need to implement TTM and DRM, then I could focus on bringing OpenGL kit up to date. TTM is an API for managing memory on GPU's, DRM is a direct rendering manager, kernel side implementation of how to talk to graphics card, popular on Linux. I'm using code from FreeBSD and some parts from Linux. But lately I'm trying to get more from Linux as FreeBSD port of Mesa and GL stack at all isn't complete as much as Linux ones. But there are limits, for example linux GL stack on kernel side (DRM) is GPL'ed and on Haiku we are focusing on having much not GPL code as we can.
Maxim: You mentioned LLVM. Will you use it ?
Artur: LLVM is a Low Level Virtual Machine, it's another topic, but it allows to generate higly optimized code for cpu. Nope, i'm not planning to use it.
Maxim: What GPU will be accelerated first in plans ?
Artur: What GPU ? Which I have, nVidia :D If we're going to provide an OpenGL Kit, it should be a fully accelerated by GPU, not a software implementation. But really, my plans are first to use VMware vGPU driver and if it works, then try with real hardware. VMware vGPU is a virtual GPU architecture, which translates guests OpenGL calls into native calls from hosts, so you can get native performance from your nvidia card running on linux on your Haiku runned from VMware.
Maxim: Will Haiku support Linux DRM drivers ?
Artur: If we don't want to reinvent the wheel on haiku, we should implement DRM on our side and use stable, bug-free linux drivers. TTM and DRM are to be implemented as kernel mode code. And Haiku DRM will provide DRM API that is compatible on source level with Linux DRM drivers, similar as it was done by our colleages with FreeBSD network compatibility layer which we have for network drivers.
09:22
Catchy title? No worries, I'm not letting steam out on anyone, or on a rant again.
If you want to blow stuff up and have some fun under Haiku with community members, join pistooli, michaelvoliveira, and myself tomorrow for a game of NetPanzer. - should be fun. We'll also try to make ourselves available in chat to name the server and our aliases (mine will be ostpreussen).
09:22
Catchy title? No worries, I'm not letting steam out on anyone, or on a rant again.
If you want to blow stuff up and have some fun under Haiku with community members, join pistooli, michaelvoliveira, and myself tomorrow for a game of NetPanzer. - should be fun. We'll also try to make ourselves available in chat to name the server and our aliases (mine will be ostpreussen).
12:55
@nuovodna !Fedora is not silly enough to have a #ppa system. People can just make thier own repos on the #FedoraProject servers anyway.
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21:27
The FLOSS Weekly (Free Libre Open Source Software) podcast is featuring Haiku in episode 120. Hosts Randal Schwartz and Aaron Seigo talk with Haiku developer Ryan Leavengood and contributor Niels Sascha Reedijk about the origins of Haiku, its purpose, the current status of the project and the potential for the future. Of course, alpha 2 is shamelessly being plugged!
Listen to the podcast now, or download it for later!
May 18, 2010
09:16
Linus Torvalds announced the release of Linux 2.6.34, which is notable for adding two filesystems: Ceph for distributed and cloud-based applications, and LogFS, which is optimized for flash-memory based devices. Other new features include a faster KVM virtualization driver based on Vhost.net technology, says LinuxPlanet.com....
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May 19, 2010
14:00
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@narcislinux There are dozens of great IDEs for Python! http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
16:48
@coredumb Compare it to other languages, specifications and communities to find out. The only thing Python is missing is CPAN.
22:15
We're starting to get closer to the end of this Learning to Program series. After toying with menus and interface colors in the last lesson, we apply some of the concepts used with menus to get the hang of using list boxes and discover along the way a few bizarre sports that really exist. Games people play. Sheesh.
Learning to Program With Haiku Lesson 18
Sources: 18ListTitle.zip
May 20, 2010
01:16
VMware's Roland Scheidegger has announced he soon will be merging gallium-msaa to Mesa master soon, which will put this branch into the mainline Mesa code-base in time for the Mesa 7.9 release in the coming months...
01:38
Novell announced SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE) 11 Service Pack 1 (SP1) in server and desktop versions. SLE 11 SP1 advances the server version's virtualization capabilities with full support for KVM, also boosting high availability clustering support, while the desktop version updates audio, Bluetooth, and multi-monitor support, Novell says....
May 21, 2010
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20:52
A $600 bounty came around a while back within the AROS (AROS Research Operating System) community to port Gallium3D and the Nouveau driver to this operating system that is a free software implementation of the AmigaOS 3.1 APIs. This bounty was successful in getting an OpenGL subsystem running on this free AmigaOS alternative via Mesa and Gallium3D and now a 2D architecture is also being implemented atop Gallium3D -- it sounds familiar to how the X.Org developers are implementing the Xorg state tracker to accelerate EXA and X-Video...
Comment by DDevine
on 27 May 10 at 13:38 EST
I should check the Rosetta Stone mailing list to see if there is some communication going on.
May 22, 2010
09:06
HP will use the Linux-based WebOS operating system it is acquiring from Palm for smartphones, tablets, and printers, but not in netbooks, say reports from HP's positive earnings call earlier this week. Meanwhile, AT T has started selling the Palm Pre Plus and will start selling the WebOS-based Pixi Plus phone in June, says eWEEK....
Comment by DDevine
on 27 May 10 at 13:37 EST
Its nice to see that HP really wants to do something with WebOS. If they Open Source it they may have a winner on their hands.
11:40
I checked out the new !ubuntu to see what the fuss about #Ubuntu is these days. Too #buggy. New theme looks really #shit. #Usability #fail.
12:10
Last week we shared that Wine 1.2 was being prepared for release in June and as part of that the release candidates would start being pushed out next week. Well, it's now that time and the first release candidate of Wine 1.2 is now available...
Comment by DDevine
on 27 May 10 at 13:37 EST
Compiled it today, nothing special really but no regressions that I can see.
May 23, 2010
02:48
There will be LinuxTag 2010 coverage on Phoronix. LinuxTag is Germany's premiere Linux event that takes place in Berlin and this year will be from the 9th to 12th of June. Various free software projects will be there and among the speakers are Mark Shuttleworth, Matt Asay, and Larry Augustin...
May 24, 2010
12:30
I got my #TV tuner card (Leaktek DTV1000S) kinda working. Not sure how. Just fiddled around, compiled #v4l a few times...
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@maestrofjp Ubuntu/Cannonical doesn't not give two hoots about users or developers. People have already contributed excellent alternatives!
14:37
@maestrofjp Agreed that many people don't spend enough time to appreciate UI changes. BTW my problem is squarely with the #ubuntu project.
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